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Join Kat & Leo for a Swinger podcast by Newbies, for Newbies. Kat’s the brains of the podcast and the star of Leo’s naughty fantasies. Funny, yet wildly unpredictable, Leo is the yuck to Kat’s yum. With a rakish mind and naughty wit, you never know what to expect with an R-rated mind made for mature audiences. We’re just getting started, so stay tuned to find out what crazy swinger adventure we’ll get up to next.
Episodes

6 days ago
6 days ago
👻 Ghosting happens - even to Kat & Leo! In this episode, we’re spilling the tea on all the ghosting, the oof moments, and the head-scratchers we've had to deal with. Ghosting isn’t just for the newbies - whether you’re one week in or one year deep, it still stings. We’re here to share how it’s happened to us, how we’ve learned to bounce back, why it’s inevitable, and how to handle it without too much emotional fallout. Tune in for some laughs, lessons, and real talk about handling the ghosting game like a pro!
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
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Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Boo! You Got Ghosted. Now What? Here’s How to Handle Ghosting
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
Single Male Bible: In Search of the Manicorn
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
Tuesday Jun 17, 2025
😈 Kat’s riding a wave of MFM-induced euphoria - NRE blazing through her veins like a damn wildfire - and she’s talking a mile a minute. Fresh off her most perfect threesome (yes, even rivaling Italian Edward 😏), she and Leo unveil The Single Male Bible. Whether you're trying to find a manicorn or become one, this episode is your no-BS, slightly sweaty guide to single male success.
Spoiler: Most of these tips work for finding couples too. Bring your notepad and maybe a towel. It’s that hot.
Double spoiler: Kat hasn't found her manicorn yet!
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Single Male Bible: In Search of the Manicorn
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
Kasidie Review: Good, Bad, and Ugly of This Swinger App
Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
Wednesday Jun 11, 2025
💋💻 We spent months deep in the trenches of Kasidie - flirting, playing, passing, and collecting validations like Black Friday shoppers grabbing TVs in a brawl. We spill the unfiltered tea on what it’s like to actually use one of the OG swinger platforms in 2025 - and give you tips to get the most bang for your buck. From emoji-head profile pics (guilty as charged!) and Starbucks meetups to that legendary single gent with 20+ rave reviews about all those damn positions, we break down the pros, the cons, the clunky design, and whether it’s still got a place in your swinger toolkit.
Is it worth the price? Can it compete with Feeld? And why does it still feel like Myspace in heels? Tune in for the good, the bad, and the ugly. 👻
👽🛸 Plus.... Kat & Leo muse about the deliciously weird world of swinging as an alternate reality - think parallel universe, but with less gravity and way more orgasms. And we recap our Denver Magnolia takeover where we hosted a room, served up Jell-o shots, and accidentally discovered… we kinda love throwing a party.
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Kasidie Review: Good, Bad, and Ugly of This Swinger App
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
Swipe Right! Swinger App Do’s, Don’ts & Dealbreakers
Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
Tuesday Jun 03, 2025
📱 Ready to swipe, match, and maybe even moan? In this episode, we’re diving headfirst into the wild world of swinger apps - because navigating SLS, SDC, Feeld, Kasidie, and 3Fun is not for the faint of thong. We’ll give you our own personal flirty little overview of each app (don’t worry, deep dives are coming) and spill our top tips for building a swinger profile that actually makes people want to say yes. From bio basics to pic do’s and don’ts, we’re sharing all the app tea - cringe, catfish, and connection included.
We went deep (like, really deep) so you don’t have to. These are our takes, our red flags, and our fave tricks that actually work in the wild. Trust us - your future play encounters will thank you.
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Swipe Right! Swinger App Do’s, Don’ts & Dealbreakers
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Wednesday May 28, 2025
Couples vs Singles: Threesomes, Foursomes & Facepalms
Wednesday May 28, 2025
Wednesday May 28, 2025
🥊 It's the lifestyle debate that never dies - and we're diving in headfirst. In this episode, Kat & Leo break down what really goes on in the minds of single players vs. committed couples navigating the scene. From the thrill of a threesome to the emotional gymnastics of couple swaps, we’re talking strategy, vibe checks, jealousy triggers, and the very real difference between showing up solo vs. as a team. 🦄 v 👩🏻❤️👨🏻
PLUS—find out what happens when we try to have a wholesome East Coast family vacay… and our swinger guardian angel pulls the rug out from under us on 2 out of 3 meet-n-greets. Good thing our backup plan was one wild night with a wilder unicorn.... tune in for some laughs!
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Couples vs Singles: Threesomes, Foursomes & Facepalms
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Tuesday May 20, 2025
Bliss Cruise 2025: Smuggled Booze, Bent the Rules, Tips You Can Use - Part 2
Tuesday May 20, 2025
Tuesday May 20, 2025
🏴☠ Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of rum! What do sunscreen bottles, secret bladder flasks, and a suspiciously full shampoo container have in common? Welcome to Part 2 of our Bliss Cruise recap - where we unpack the art of sneaky smuggling, the essentials you actually need to pack, and all the steamy HOT TAKES that’ll turn your cruise from basic to blissed-out.
From embarkation hacks to dining to dancing to how to find the elusive sexy fun you're looking for, we cover the highs, the hangovers, and the moments we almost got caught (but didn’t). Pop that bottle of bubbly - it’s time to sail the naughty seas.
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🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Bliss Review Part 2: Smuggled Booze, Bent the Rules, Tips You Can Use - Part 2
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Tuesday May 13, 2025
Bliss Cruise 2025: What Worked, What Flopped, What Got Us Naked - Part 1
Tuesday May 13, 2025
Tuesday May 13, 2025
⚓ New owners, new app, and a whole lot of new ways to end up in someone else’s bed. Isn't that what it's all about?! In Part 1 of our Bliss Cruise 2025 recap -yep, our third cruise in a row (sluttons!) - we’re spilling the sexy tea on what changed, what stayed the same, and what had us screaming “Fine Bliss, just take our credit card and our clothes."
We’re talking rave nights, missed connections, and the app that finally let us stalk by cabin number. Should’ve shot our shot - next time, no regrets.
Grab a drink, clutch your lanyard, and relive the foreplay. Part 2 goes deeper with even more tips to make your Bliss experience blissful..
🚢 ☀️ 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 ☀️🚢
STAY TUNED FOR PART 2 OF OUR BLISS CRUISE RECAP NEXT WEEK!!
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Bliss Cruise Review 2025: What Worked, What Flopped, What Got Us Naked - Part 1
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us

Friday May 02, 2025
Swinger Boundaries: Where to Bust a Nut, Who Can Kiss, and WTF Is a Veto?
Friday May 02, 2025
Friday May 02, 2025
🛑 So you’re thinking about swinging… but what are the actual rules? Do you kiss? Do you cuddle? Can he finish on her chest, in her mouth or none of the above?
In this episode, Kat & Leo serve up the ultimate swinger starter pack - aka all the boundaries you need to talk about before anyone takes their clothes off. Think of it as your pre-game pep talk: condoms, safe words, “don’t choke me,” and how not to end up in a group chat scandal.
Whether you’re a “no kissing, no oral” newbie or eyeing that full swap fantasy, this episode will help you get aligned, set limits, and keep things hot without the heartbreak. Because nothing kills the vibe faster than, “Wait… you did what?!”
Press play, grab your partner, and let’s talk boundaries, baby 💋
🚢 ☀️ 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊 ☀️🚢
STAY TUNED FOR OUR BLISS CRUISE RECAP - OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK. WHAT A WILD RIDE!!
🍦 Dive in and enjoy every spoonful of our super candid newbie journey as we go from vanilla…to 69 flavors! Always hilarious, unhinged, bite-size and commercial-free!
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Where else to find Kat & Leo (besides clubs and cruises!):
🔥 Website: https://VanillaSwingers.com
🔥 *BRAND NEW* blog page ---> check out fun links & more! Swinger Boundaries: Where to Bust a Nut, Who Can Kiss, and WTF Is a Veto?
🔥 CONFUSED on Swinger Lingo? Check out Kat's new Swinger Dictionary!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Playlist - Sexy Songs: Vanilla Swingers After Dark - Ready to misbehave? 😉 This is the short version of the playlist we vibe to in the bedroom. Press play and let’s get into some trouble!
🔥 *NEW* Spotify Epic Playlist - Vanilla Swingers EPIC Playlist - Our go-to rendezvous banger—130+ tracks of pure filthy, flirty, and fire. If this playlist could talk, it would moan.
🔥 Check Out Our HOTEL ROOM Makeover – Peek inside our fave hotel setups and steal every sexy, swingy little detail.
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Contact Us! Slide into our DMs... ;-) 💋😘
💌 Email Us: hello@vanillaswingers.com
💌 Instagram: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Facebook: @VanillaSwingers
💌 Message Us: vanillaswingers.com/contact-us